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		<title>By: fabeetle</title>
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		<dc:creator>fabeetle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points here. Sorry about the moving of my comment. Noticed a spelling error and tried to fix it but seems like I screwed everything up as I was logged in under the wrong twitter account. Anywho...Stephanies response was to my post below:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks Steph, you bring up really good points with the regulation aspect and we are very familiar with it. We think we have come up with a solutions and will reveal it at a later date. As far as a survey of HNW with fabeetle specifically, we do have such a data set and feel confident about the results. We will also be releasing this at a later date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points here. Sorry about the moving of my comment. Noticed a spelling error and tried to fix it but seems like I screwed everything up as I was logged in under the wrong twitter account. Anywho&#8230;Stephanies response was to my post below:</p>
<p>Thanks Steph, you bring up really good points with the regulation aspect and we are very familiar with it. We think we have come up with a solutions and will reveal it at a later date. As far as a survey of HNW with fabeetle specifically, we do have such a data set and feel confident about the results. We will also be releasing this at a later date.</p>
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		<title>By: fabeetle</title>
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		<dc:creator>fabeetle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points guys. I think the main question I see from the comments below is whether or not the HNW will participate in such a site. It makes sense that we are all asking this question, so here are our thoughts:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I tend to believe through my research that the HNW target market is made up of the same contributors and observers as other, less affluent audiences. That said, we would disagree with Stephanie&#039;s statement of:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;...I don&#039;t believe that higher net worth investors will have the time nor the interest frankly to participate in this type of process...and those happen to be the clients we want as advisors.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe that the HNW are actually more likely to &quot;participate in this type of process&quot; than other target markets. (One thing that we should point out here is that both Stephanie’s comment and my response are very broad statements, the reality is that there are groups within any target market that will and won’t participate, we are just wondering how the HNW have a propensity to act given an relevant solution). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In October of 2008 a study was released from Google and Unity Marketing, giving some insight into the way that the HNW, or &quot;millionaires&quot;, are making purchasing decisions. The article is written with luxury retailers as the audience and to an extent financial advisors could be included in this category. FAs either work with people who don&#039;t want to, or can&#039;t manage their own money.  Whether you agree with this specific linkage or not is not the point. It is the overall purchasing behavior of the consumer that we are interested in. According to Google&#039;s Retail Director, John McAteer, millionaires seem to involve the internet in their purchasing decisions more than one might think:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;We were surprised by just how much information they wanted online. Just over 90% of millionaires say they always or often read other customers&#039; reviews online, for example, compared with 68% of affluent shoppers. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my opinion these types of trends indicate that the HNW do have an interest and therefore are actually more likely to participate in reading and writing online reviews. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With respect to the question of the HNW having enough time, John McAteer says that it is this very lack of time that is pushing the HNW to the internet for buying decisions. In the very first Question and Answer we find the following:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Q: What are the biggest misunderstandings that marketers and retailers have about millionaires?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;A: There&#039;s this deep-seated conviction that the wealthy are very idle people--a sort of &quot;ladies who lunch&quot;       crowd. They often don&#039;t understand just how time-poor their rich customers are--90% of millionaires in our       survey work, and often at very demanding jobs.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe that it is this misconception that will allow fabeetle to become successful. The misconception that somehow the HNW are so busy they don&#039;t have enough time to logon, read or write a rating or review but they do have enough time to ask for, meet with, evaluate and keep up with multiple referrals, meetings, pitches, value propositions, etc. This research and more suggests that as solutions present themselves to the HNW which allow for them to consolidate a process efficiently and effectively, they become strong adopters. My calculation is that as we introduce such a solution they will become adopters, and this will benefit both FAs and clients alike.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It seems that behavior trends and needs of the HNW audience are already heading in a direction that would make our solution appropriate. The question is whether or not fabeetle will be the one to bring to market that solution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course I could be wrong, but that is what taking risks is about right?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can read the articles referenced here: &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=93567&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Artic...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.networldingblog.com/2009/01/18/millionaires-choose-the-internet-as-their-number-1-place-to/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.networldingblog.com/2009/01/18/milli...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points guys. I think the main question I see from the comments below is whether or not the HNW will participate in such a site. It makes sense that we are all asking this question, so here are our thoughts:</p>
<p>I tend to believe through my research that the HNW target market is made up of the same contributors and observers as other, less affluent audiences. That said, we would disagree with Stephanie&#39;s statement of:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;I don&#39;t believe that higher net worth investors will have the time nor the interest frankly to participate in this type of process&#8230;and those happen to be the clients we want as advisors.&#8221; </p>
<p>I believe that the HNW are actually more likely to &#8220;participate in this type of process&#8221; than other target markets. (One thing that we should point out here is that both Stephanie’s comment and my response are very broad statements, the reality is that there are groups within any target market that will and won’t participate, we are just wondering how the HNW have a propensity to act given an relevant solution). </p>
<p>In October of 2008 a study was released from Google and Unity Marketing, giving some insight into the way that the HNW, or &#8220;millionaires&#8221;, are making purchasing decisions. The article is written with luxury retailers as the audience and to an extent financial advisors could be included in this category. FAs either work with people who don&#39;t want to, or can&#39;t manage their own money.  Whether you agree with this specific linkage or not is not the point. It is the overall purchasing behavior of the consumer that we are interested in. According to Google&#39;s Retail Director, John McAteer, millionaires seem to involve the internet in their purchasing decisions more than one might think:</p>
<p>&#8220;We were surprised by just how much information they wanted online. Just over 90% of millionaires say they always or often read other customers&#39; reviews online, for example, compared with 68% of affluent shoppers. &#8220;</p>
<p>In my opinion these types of trends indicate that the HNW do have an interest and therefore are actually more likely to participate in reading and writing online reviews. </p>
<p>With respect to the question of the HNW having enough time, John McAteer says that it is this very lack of time that is pushing the HNW to the internet for buying decisions. In the very first Question and Answer we find the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;Q: What are the biggest misunderstandings that marketers and retailers have about millionaires?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A: There&#39;s this deep-seated conviction that the wealthy are very idle people&#8211;a sort of &#8220;ladies who lunch&#8221;       crowd. They often don&#39;t understand just how time-poor their rich customers are&#8211;90% of millionaires in our       survey work, and often at very demanding jobs.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe that it is this misconception that will allow fabeetle to become successful. The misconception that somehow the HNW are so busy they don&#39;t have enough time to logon, read or write a rating or review but they do have enough time to ask for, meet with, evaluate and keep up with multiple referrals, meetings, pitches, value propositions, etc. This research and more suggests that as solutions present themselves to the HNW which allow for them to consolidate a process efficiently and effectively, they become strong adopters. My calculation is that as we introduce such a solution they will become adopters, and this will benefit both FAs and clients alike.</p>
<p>It seems that behavior trends and needs of the HNW audience are already heading in a direction that would make our solution appropriate. The question is whether or not fabeetle will be the one to bring to market that solution.</p>
<p>Of course I could be wrong, but that is what taking risks is about right?</p>
<p>You can read the articles referenced here: <br /><a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&#038;art_aid=93567" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Artic.." rel="nofollow">http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Artic..</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.networldingblog.com/2009/01/18/millionaires-choose-the-internet-as-their-number-1-place-to/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.networldingblog.com/2009/01/18/milli.." rel="nofollow">http://www.networldingblog.com/2009/01/18/milli..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Sammons</title>
		<link>http://newrulesofinvesting.com/2009/08/25/fabeetle-halfbaked-idea-or-the-bomb-for-matchmaking-financial-services/comment-page-1/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie Sammons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the real issue is the legal barrier.  If an advisor could populate his or her profile, write and post articles, AND direct clients to write reviews about them, AND post those comments, it would be a fantastic platform.  (think &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.AVVO.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.AVVO.com&lt;/a&gt; for lawyers)  However, with the current legal environment, unless I&#039;m missing something, you can&#039;t combine the FA directed activities with the &#039;crowd&#039; activities, and you can&#039;t direct clients to write testimonials about you or publish those testimonials.  You would have to have a Chinese wall between these activities which again is why I believe that the advisor has to focus on what they can control...building a unique online and offline brand that sets them apart!  Good research on millionaires but have you considered conducting a survey on HNW specifically around your concept to determine interest?  That might give you some answers.  Good luck either way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the real issue is the legal barrier.  If an advisor could populate his or her profile, write and post articles, AND direct clients to write reviews about them, AND post those comments, it would be a fantastic platform.  (think <a href="http://www.AVVO.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.AVVO.com</a> for lawyers)  However, with the current legal environment, unless I&#39;m missing something, you can&#39;t combine the FA directed activities with the &#39;crowd&#39; activities, and you can&#39;t direct clients to write testimonials about you or publish those testimonials.  You would have to have a Chinese wall between these activities which again is why I believe that the advisor has to focus on what they can control&#8230;building a unique online and offline brand that sets them apart!  Good research on millionaires but have you considered conducting a survey on HNW specifically around your concept to determine interest?  That might give you some answers.  Good luck either way.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Gadoci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Gadoci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points guys. I think the main question I see from the comments below is whether or not the HNW will participate in such a site. It makes sense that we are all asking this question, so here are our thoughts:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We tend to believe through our research that the HNW target market is made up of the same contributors and observers as other, less affluent audiences. That said, we would disagree with Stephanie&#039;s statement of:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;...I don&#039;t believe that higher net worth investors will have the time nor the interest frankly to participate in this type of process...and those happen to be the clients we want as advisors.&quot; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We believe that the HNW are actually more likely to &quot;participate in this type of process&quot; than other target markets. (One thing that we should point out here is that both Stephanie’s comment and our response are very broad statements, the reality is that there are groups within any target market that will and won’t participate, we are just wondering which way the HNW have a propensity to act given an appropriate solution). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In October of 2008 a study was released from Google and Unity Marketing, giving some insight into the way that the HNW, or &quot;millionaires&quot;, are making purchasing decisions. The article is written with luxury retailers as the audience and to an extent financial advisors could be included in this category. FAs either work with people who don&#039;t want to, or can&#039;t manage their own money.  Whether you agree with this specific linkage or not is not the point. It is the overall purchasing behavior of the consumer that we are interested in. According to Google&#039;s Retail Director, John McAteer, millionaires seem to involve the internet in their purchasing decisions more than one might think:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;We were surprised by just how much information they wanted online. Just over 90% of millionaires say they always or often read other customers&#039; reviews online, for example, compared with 68% of affluent shoppers. &quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In our opinion these types of trends indicate that the HNW do have an interest and therefore are actually more likely to participate in reading and writing online reviews. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With respect to the question of the HNW having enough time, John McAteer says that it is this very lack of time that is pushing the HNW to the internet for buying decisions. In the very first Question and Answer we find the following:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Q: What are the biggest misunderstandings that marketers and retailers have about millionaires?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;A: There&#039;s this deep-seated conviction that the wealthy are very idle people--a sort of &quot;ladies who lunch&quot;       crowd. They often don&#039;t understand just how time-poor their rich customers are--90% of millionaires in our       survey work, and often at very demanding jobs.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We believe that it is this misconception that will allow fabeetle to become successful. The misconception that somehow the HNW are so busy they don&#039;t have enough time to logon, read or write a rating or review but they do have enough time to ask for, meet with, evaluate and keep up with multiple referrals, meetings, pitches, value propositions, etc. This research and more suggests that as solutions present themselves to the HNW which allow for them to consolidate a process efficiently and effectively, they become strong adopters. Our calculation is that as we introduce such a solution they will become adopters, and this will benefit both FAs and clients alike.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In our opinion the behavior trends and needs of the HNW audience are already heading in a direction that would make our solution appropriate. The question is whether or not fabeetle will be the one to bring to market that solution.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course we could be wrong, but that is what taking risks is about right?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can read the articles referenced here: &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=93567&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Artic...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.networldingblog.com/2009/01/18/millionaires-choose-the-internet-as-their-number-1-place-to/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.networldingblog.com/2009/01/18/milli...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points guys. I think the main question I see from the comments below is whether or not the HNW will participate in such a site. It makes sense that we are all asking this question, so here are our thoughts:</p>
<p>We tend to believe through our research that the HNW target market is made up of the same contributors and observers as other, less affluent audiences. That said, we would disagree with Stephanie&#39;s statement of:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;I don&#39;t believe that higher net worth investors will have the time nor the interest frankly to participate in this type of process&#8230;and those happen to be the clients we want as advisors.&#8221; </p>
<p>We believe that the HNW are actually more likely to &#8220;participate in this type of process&#8221; than other target markets. (One thing that we should point out here is that both Stephanie’s comment and our response are very broad statements, the reality is that there are groups within any target market that will and won’t participate, we are just wondering which way the HNW have a propensity to act given an appropriate solution). </p>
<p>In October of 2008 a study was released from Google and Unity Marketing, giving some insight into the way that the HNW, or &#8220;millionaires&#8221;, are making purchasing decisions. The article is written with luxury retailers as the audience and to an extent financial advisors could be included in this category. FAs either work with people who don&#39;t want to, or can&#39;t manage their own money.  Whether you agree with this specific linkage or not is not the point. It is the overall purchasing behavior of the consumer that we are interested in. According to Google&#39;s Retail Director, John McAteer, millionaires seem to involve the internet in their purchasing decisions more than one might think:</p>
<p>&#8220;We were surprised by just how much information they wanted online. Just over 90% of millionaires say they always or often read other customers&#39; reviews online, for example, compared with 68% of affluent shoppers. &#8220;</p>
<p>In our opinion these types of trends indicate that the HNW do have an interest and therefore are actually more likely to participate in reading and writing online reviews. </p>
<p>With respect to the question of the HNW having enough time, John McAteer says that it is this very lack of time that is pushing the HNW to the internet for buying decisions. In the very first Question and Answer we find the following:</p>
<p>&#8220;Q: What are the biggest misunderstandings that marketers and retailers have about millionaires?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;A: There&#39;s this deep-seated conviction that the wealthy are very idle people&#8211;a sort of &#8220;ladies who lunch&#8221;       crowd. They often don&#39;t understand just how time-poor their rich customers are&#8211;90% of millionaires in our       survey work, and often at very demanding jobs.&#8221;</p>
<p>We believe that it is this misconception that will allow fabeetle to become successful. The misconception that somehow the HNW are so busy they don&#39;t have enough time to logon, read or write a rating or review but they do have enough time to ask for, meet with, evaluate and keep up with multiple referrals, meetings, pitches, value propositions, etc. This research and more suggests that as solutions present themselves to the HNW which allow for them to consolidate a process efficiently and effectively, they become strong adopters. Our calculation is that as we introduce such a solution they will become adopters, and this will benefit both FAs and clients alike.</p>
<p>In our opinion the behavior trends and needs of the HNW audience are already heading in a direction that would make our solution appropriate. The question is whether or not fabeetle will be the one to bring to market that solution.</p>
<p>Of course we could be wrong, but that is what taking risks is about right?</p>
<p>You can read the articles referenced here: <br /><a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&#038;art_aid=93567" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Artic.." rel="nofollow">http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Artic..</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.networldingblog.com/2009/01/18/millionaires-choose-the-internet-as-their-number-1-place-to/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.networldingblog.com/2009/01/18/milli.." rel="nofollow">http://www.networldingblog.com/2009/01/18/milli..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: newrulesofinvesting</title>
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		<dc:creator>newrulesofinvesting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 05:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, agreed with your points on the HNW crowd.  I guess we&#039;ll wait and see.&lt;br&gt;To your second point, one could make the case that with any rating, it&#039;s totally subjective to the user&#039;s experience.  Just because someone loved a particular book and posting a positive rating on Amazon doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s the right book for me.  Hopefully, there will be enough positive and negative commentary so that a user can decide for himself whether they may be a match or not.  &lt;br&gt;I&#039;d add to this point that what is hard about judging performance of a service, in general, is that if it&#039;s not commoditized and delivery and execution differ greatly between clients (this one gets a financial plan, this one gets asset allocation, another gets active stock picking), it is hard to get apples-to-apples comparisons because our experiences differed so greatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, agreed with your points on the HNW crowd.  I guess we&#39;ll wait and see.<br />To your second point, one could make the case that with any rating, it&#39;s totally subjective to the user&#39;s experience.  Just because someone loved a particular book and posting a positive rating on Amazon doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s the right book for me.  Hopefully, there will be enough positive and negative commentary so that a user can decide for himself whether they may be a match or not.  <br />I&#39;d add to this point that what is hard about judging performance of a service, in general, is that if it&#39;s not commoditized and delivery and execution differ greatly between clients (this one gets a financial plan, this one gets asset allocation, another gets active stock picking), it is hard to get apples-to-apples comparisons because our experiences differed so greatly.</p>
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